just going to have to learn to live with the fact that we do have those soft targets and the enemy is going to strike. >> bill: okay. but, see, it's more than that though. frank was a congressman from boston. his district wasn't in the marathon or where the people were killed. but he was close. so you have got a family grieving an 8-year-old boy. you have got a mother, you just saw her. and then here we go with, well, we don't want to cut taxes. and i'm saying to myself, who does this? >> well, if you have ever spent any time around barney frank, you know he has got very little empathy for other people. he is one of the most self-contained hyperpartisan, you know, big government liberals and he just -- everybody else, ordinary people, i just don't think he relates well to them. i don't think he understands how terrible that mother felt. how grief-stricken she was. >> bill: how could you not? >> well, because, look, if you ever seen him in a committee hearing?